i'm not an easily angered person. i like think of myself as passive. i don't care what people think of me, but i care if they feel i've wronged them. with that said, i rarely post at all. when i do post it's when i feel that i have something important to get across, something that needs to be said. i will not walk on egg shells with my posts because i'm a farely blunt person. i don't "attack" people in my posts. i simply state my opinion on a matter. if an opinion is viewed as attacking here, then i really don't want to be here. i'm not about pissing people off, so if my comments are doing so, i'll leave. i came here because this looked like a safe haven for me to be surrounded by people going through the same thing i am or similar situations. i like the idea of message boards because you can the advice and opinion of many different people, but i hate it for the fact of there's no way to show expressions. if i say something, there's no way of the reader knowing that i meant one way instead of another.

my entire life i've felt like an outcast, that i don't belong, and that is staring at me saying "why is she here". i am starting to feel that way here. but instead of crouching in a corner and backing out of the situation i'm trying to give myself a reason to stay. i hope i can find one.

this entire post is probably brought on by the fact that my daughter is teething and i had about 3 hours of sleep last and i'm very tired and aggitated. but it makes me more honest. i'm stopping my little pity party now. *throws up confetti, steps down from soap box, walks out of room*

Caitlin's mommy, hang in there. Tough days will happen. I hope that the reasons you registered are still here. I know, even when there are minor skirmishes, the support is always here, so don't leave on a quick decision. Your input is appreciated and as you said it is hard to truly express what we are saying, we can only do the best we can with the words we choose to use. Hope to see you around.

I have replied in the other post but I will again here with a basic cut and paste;

In fact, a healthy debate is welcome around here. We just must remember to not let it get personal. Except for the "uneducated opinion" part, you raised some very valid points Caitlin's Mommy and your opinion is as welcome as every other member's.

Please continue as we all learn from discussions such as this. [Smile]

i personally don't see the wrong in saying it was an uneducated opinion. spanking in NO way shows the child to be violent. how is it wrong to tell someone they should do a little bit of research before stating something as fact? that's something i learned in grade school.

Caitlin's mom..... take a deep breath... you are certainly not an outkast here!!!! Far from it.

I hope that teething ends quickly... although I do remember it seemed like it was constant around here. No fun!

I will not debate this issue here except to say that because you have no idea of the member's education, I felt your words were harsh. If you wish to discuss this further, please PM me.

Ok let me state that I have an education is teaching, special ed and regular ed as well as neonatal and childhood development. The books they have you read show the side of the research stated in another member's post. So in fact, it can be considered an educated opinion?

I know what you are saying, I know many people who were spanked as children and I've seen not one ill side-effect of it. Again, it is all based on a persons life experiences whether it be familial or education, etc. But, to say one is using an uneducated opinion is more of an assumption.

2 things...
See my reply in the other thread

and, Please don't feel the need or desire to leave based on any of this. It's just one of those bumps in the road that we all travel on.

BTDT... I can be rough around the edges too lass... Tho I tuff it out... I'm just a mechanic ( a smart one I may add ) we all sometime suffer from foot2mouth disorder... No worries... EVER!!! We've all learned to take the good with the bad... you should track down my old pst ~fin~ cause I felt the same way as you... But NooOOoo.. they kept me around.... Just to poke me and laugh at me Ruffle fethers sometimes, it'll let people know they are alive, and have feelings


Rich
P.S. I musta missed the Spankin post... Tho I admit, if Andrew gets to far outta line, I'm not above letting him know with a good smack to the butt!!! Then when the tiers are dry I let him know WHY...

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they kept me around.... Just to poke me and laugh at me

LOL Rich!

See, no excuses to go anywhere --- unless you don't like a little poking and laughter!

Sue!....How do you stay lookin so good with three young women on your hands????

Anyway...my two cents. Things are not always going to be easy here. You are not always going to say the right things. The best thing to do is: apologize when you are wrong and walk away when you are not. It is really not worth arguing about.

There is one person in this family that I got into it with hot and heavy and was ready to leave....she is now one of the people that absolutely make my day when I see them now (even though she gets ghost about as much as I do).

Conflict is okay...holding on to it is not. For everyone that you offend there are 100s more that find joy in your posts elsewhere and you never know...they may end up making your day eventually too.

Amen PITA, you hit the nail on the head.

We welcome you and want you and need you around here Caitlin's Mom!


(PITA, you talkin bout my marshmallowface?)

No marshmallows there Sue! Did you look like your girls when you were little?

exactly Delia has all my expressions but Maia looks more like me (I know, sure they are identical to the naked eyeLOL) Olivia looks a lot like her dad's family although she's definitely got me in her. The hair is key... all 4 of us have identical hair color although the pic of me doesn't show it. It is scary it is so exact -- although I have a lot more red highlights in mine but I think at their age they were more blond than red. Oh and mine is curly theirs isn't but mine changed overnight at about 11. I can see it happening to them as it seems to be getting wavier each year.

EEEk 4 girls in the same house??? just the thought of it makes me want to go check my tiolet seat for infractions!!!