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I am New to SFV |
I am sure I am not alone in feeling the frustration of dealing with this agency and it's problems. Their faliure to do their job. I am guessing that all states have the same problems, if not... those that don't... be thankfull. I am in Missouri and I am at then end of my rope. I am asking for those that are in the same situation as myslef to do as I have and write their government officials. Today (again) I faxed or mailed a letter to 8 of my government officials including my senators, representatives, governor, lieutenant governor, attorney gerneral and 2 local news stations. I have to channel this anger and frustration some how. My one voice can't make a difference alone but at least I will know that I tried... I will know that I just didn't sit back and let it happen to my children and I. Did you know that there are laws that apply to employers, that they must comply with a garnishment within a certain amount of time or they be fined? Well there is but there is a catch! I was just informed by my case worker that due to "budget cuts" they no longer send the wage withholding information to the employers via certified registered mail. My ex's newest employer was mailed the information in 11/27/02, I still haven't received a dime. This would put them way past the deadline to start the garnshment and they shoud be liable and facing fines at this point. BUT The employer when questioned last week claims they did not receive the information until 1/03/03 and since it was not sent certified we have no proof of when they actually received it. According to my case worker we have to accept that. Well I don't accept that and I won't accept that. Time and time again I am dealing with this same kind of CRAP. They can never seem to find out where he is working. I am always the one sneaking around finding out and calling them and telling them where my ex is employed at. Then for some reason it takes about 3 months to get the garnishment started... once it does... he quits. What is wrong with this picture?
Anyway... enough crabbing....Please if you are in a similar going nowhere cycle with this agency or your own local agency in your state START WRITING. We deserve to be heard and we deserve to have answers. There needs to be accountability somewhere. |
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I AM AT MY WITS END! I spent most of the day today calling around looking for some kind of assistance in collecting child support. I tried the CSE route but have come to a dead end. Six months ago, when I spoke to somebody on the phone, I was told to apply and be patient for about a year, that it was going to take that long before anything would happen.
 At that time, I could afford to wait a year since I had a good job with fairly decent income. I could get by without the jerks money. Since then however, I've lost my job. I am now unemployed with very little money. I called CSE again today, only to find out that my application does not exist, that it must have gotten lost! I was told my information would be sent to the local office and that IF I didn't hear from them in 3 - 4, they didn't get my information and that I would have to call the toll-free number back to ask for yet another applicaiton. What the heck is going on here? Are they waiting until my son reaches 18 or what? I am at the end of my rope ! I just don't know what to do anymore. Any suggestions? I have a couple of ideas of my own but they would only land in the slammer!  |
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I am New to SFV |
Hello Ladies!! My name is faren and I am new here. I am mother to one almost six year old beautiful little girl. I was just browsing topics when I saw this one and just had to add my two cents.
 I too am fed up with Child Support Enforcement Agencies. I live in Virginia and have been trying to get DCSE (Division of Child Support Enforcement) to make my daughters father obligated. After two years I finally got them to serve him....the order was for $164.00/month!! Yeah, really. Okay, he could never pay that consistently and when I would call they would give me the run around. When I finally went to the "top dog" they decided to do a wage withholding. Well guess what? He quit his job. Anyway to make a long story short, he now lives in Georgia and even though I have provided them with EVERYTHING they have asked me for, they have yet to be able to make him pay. I am so frustrated that I am just ready to close my case and leave it alone. The "worker"  I spoke with told me that there is nothing they can do to make him pay and that they are taking every means necessary. After reading Mommyof3's message I have decided that she is right, we do need to be heard and so I too am going to begin a letter writing campaign instead of closing my case. I want people to know about this. I know that a lot of people think that as mothers we are using the money for ourselves, but I know that's not the case. My daughters father says he doesn't pay because he doesn't like the fact that I stay on his back about it!! Ain't that a trip? To TanyaL, yeah girl I hear ya, I have some ideas of my own too, but they would only land me or someone else in the slammer. Mommyof3, could you email me the letters you used so I can get an idea of what to say? [EMAIL]1flysclwkr*blackplanet.com[/EMAIL] Thanks!! |
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HI. I AM NEW HERE. THIS IS TOPIC IS MY MAIN CONCERN ALSO. I LIVE IN MISSOURI ALSO. I HAVE ONLY BEEN DIVORCED FOR A YEAR BUT I HAVE SPENT ALL THAT TIME TRYING TO COLLECT CHILD SUPPORT. IN THAT TIME HE HAS HAD 4 DIFFERENT JOBS, MOVED FROM MISSOURI TO KANSAS AND BACK TO MISSOURI. NOW HIS NEW THING, DON'T WORK AT ALL AND TRY TO CLAIM H IS DISABLED. RIGHT THIS MINUTE HE IS SITTING IN JAIL FOR CHILD SUPPORT HE OWES TO SOMEONE ELSE. I HAVE SPENT THE PAST 2 YEARS SUPPORTING MY KIDS ON MY OWN. HE GETS FOOD STAMPS, I GET NOTHING. TELL ME WHO TO WRITE AND I WILL WRITE ALSO. THE KIDS STILL HAVE TO LIVE WHILE EVERYONE GETS THE RUN AROUND.
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I am New to SFV |
Good Morning All,
I would start by writing to the Commisioner or Head of the Department of Social Services on the State Level. That's what I had to do initially to get them to even serve my daughters father with a support order. You may also want to bring light to your situation by writing to your local newspaper. You can write you local representatives, also your Attorney General. Hope this information is helpful to you!!  |
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 You are certainly correct, it is a real pain searching for deadbeats, I have been doing it for more than twenty years. I do not know what state you are in and I think I can help, there are some real specific things you need to do depending on what state you live in. I think your message said MO at the base, so let me do some investigative work and I will post something for you within a week. Hope it's helpful! Hang in there and please don't get discouraged. |
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Hi there,
I just signed up with SFV, after spending a whole day trying to reach my case worker from CSE on the phone. I was reading your post/replys and a light bulb went off in my head, hey, there is a common theme here, duh. so i think our one voice should become one "LOUD" voice, don't u? u had mentioned that u continue to write your gov. officials have u gotten anywhere with that approach? I was considering doing just that today. I don't think we should waste a whole lot of time getting our one "LOUD" voice ready to be heard,i think time is pretty precious regarding this issue, because all those non- paying fathers are getting together to try and tilt the scales even more in there favor thru legislation. i live in the stae of Minnesota and starting July 2004 the CSE is going to start charging the custodial parent for collection services, which is pretty funny, since they don't do there job's in the first place. LETS GET TOGETHER LADIES AND EXERCISE THAT LOUD VOICE UNTIL ITS HEARD!!!
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I am New to SFV |
Hi Mommyof3, no you are not alone. Unfortunately, I am experiencing the same thing that you are going through. My son who is the age of 7, father owes over $30,000 in child support. Whenever, they locate him and begin to garnish his wages, he quits his job. Maybe, I am misunderstanding "enforcement." Because, I don't see where any fear is being place in a non-custodian parent to pay! What are the reprecussion if you don't pay, by there standards? I live in Alabama, I am currently unemployed, I was employed with the airlines. Due to the September 11 incident, I am one who suffered from that. It has been totally by my faith in God, that when He says "He shall supply all of my needs..." that we have been surviving. But, I am tired of just "getting by." I am tired of my son going without ! So, I will began a writing campaign for my son sake. null |
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Hi Faren,
I too live in virginia (hampton roads )and I am just beginning the child support fight. My son's father is in the military and was not around when he was born. I don't know which base he was perminately assigned to and I don't know his commander. He also happens to be an officer (major in army). I do have his social but not a current address. Child Support enforcement does not really give me any information on my case except to say that they are working on it and have sent out a letter asking him to come in. Can you tell me what is the process they follow? If he doesn't respond to the letters then what? Since he was not there to sign the birth certificate I know we will have to establish paternity. I would have thought that by him being in the military he would be easy to track down but,I guess I was mistaken. Should I write to the higher ups in Child Support enforcement to get him served? DO they investigate first to see if the address I listed is the correct one? What was the process you went through. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks! |
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Parent on Board |
Child support is full of idiots.
I gave them ex #1's exact address for 6 years (and when he did a stint in prison when he couldn't exactly escape being served I even gave them his prison id #). I've given them exact info on his employers, parole officer, the people that write his checks, etc,etc. Hell, he has another child support case against him that actually got through, and I even gave them that info. THEY STILL HAVEN'T MANAGED TO SERVE HIM. lmao..it's a joke, a very sad, not that funny joke. HOW could they NOT serve someone that was locked in a prison cell? What, was he going to hide in the corner and claim he wasn't him? *rolling eyes* Yep..it's a joke. |
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I too was frustrated with my son's dad job-hopping, leaving the state, etc to avoid paying support. So, I did some investigating and found a creative way around the system!! This only works if you 1.) have a judgment for child support and 2.) know the name and address of the other parent's employer.
I went to my local circuit clerk's office in the courthouse. I explained the situation, and asked for a wage withholding form. I was required to show ID, fill out my info, the other parent's employment info, the case number and monthly withholding from the judgment, as well as the total of any arrears (which they can print out right there at the circuit clerk's office.) It cost absolutely NOTHING to file and they started withholding two pay periods!! Whenever me quit his job, I did a little P.I. work to find out his new employer, and refiled another withholding. It pi**ed him off to no end. He had been getting away with job-hopping for several years and now he couldn't figure out how they were tracking him down so quickly...he kept calling CSE to complain and they said they hadn't issued a withholding. I DID leave my case open with child support enforcement...not because they have ever actually been successful (or even competent ) but so that they will collect his federal and state IRS refunds if he files. I don't even bother to notify them anymore about new employer info...just circumvent them and go straight to the circuit clerk's office. So, try using the CSE for IRS refunds, but go to the circuit clerk for monthly child support. I live in Missouri, so it may be different in your states but it's worth a try! Good luck ladies!! Find a way or make a way! |
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Parent on Board |
kiermeg
ahhh good for your. i think it is good that you took action your self. i think too many people count on the system to help them. and since to many people are on the system, the gets backed up and now we all hear how poor it is. hats off to you, that is exactily what i would do if i was in your shoes. i would also like to point out, that there is online PI sights that for a small fee, you can find any ones current plance of empolyment, address, phone, credit history and any thing else about any one. but you got to have his ssn, name and DOB. |
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I am on the othe side of the fence here.
I pay child support I am forced to otherwise I will have my license revoked, jail time and so on. With that said, I don't have anyone in my court making sure I get my visitation rights. I have to pay for a lawyer while paying for childsupport, while my visation rights are being stomped on. So while you don't think your rights are being enforced. Neithier are those of parents who are being denied vistation even with a court order and a state official won't enforce that order unless you go through a whole bunch of crap in the mean time you are putting out money both ways.Child support and vistation. So even though I understand your frustration. Imagin putting out money for a child the other parent refuses to let you see even though the court order says 50/50 joint custody. Things can be allot worse. I am sorry thatthe man of your kids refuses to pay and I wish you luck in getting something done. |
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Lively & Zealous Parent |
The thing that gets me about social services/Dept. of economic security (as its called here) is how they get on people about getting off welfare and try to punish people who dont do things as they want-such as taking a low paying job just so they can so they can meet the quota each month of people off cash assistance (although they are now the "working poor" meanwhile, the absent parent goes on their merry way! I furnished Child Support with an address of one of my ex's,(which I found out on my own after several years) and the s.s. number of another and where he was working! Yet nothing was ever done, and then, when I went back to school the first time and asked for help to pay they refused because I didnt not go through them to start school again. On top of that, I quit a job once for personal reasons and received welfare for 2 months-well, the caseworker had a cow and tried to make me do all kinds of activities I was not interested in(this while still in school) I found another job soon enough though, but it frustrates me how they get on single parents who are doing everything to raise their kids right and make ends meet insted of doing more to go after the absent-non-paying ones!
I understand your frustration too Whittney- I would be mad if I was paying and not able to see my kids! Well, maybe you should get all the proof you can and go to court, if thats what it takes. Hope things get better for you. |
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