OK, I posted this same thing under someone else's post, but it seemed to get lost in it, so I figured it merits it's own thread

My ex is of course seriously overdue on his CS... he is now using the excuse that he's not working... all the while living in a very nice area in Manhattan (NYC), wearing Dolce Gabanna shoes, and owning a Treo cell phone, plus he flaunts the fact that he could pay dinner for his other kids when they come to visit him.... When asked he claims that his girlfriend is providing him with all of this (double loser)...

I know for a fact that he works with her on her business. He is listed on a website as the VP of Sales and Marketing.... My question is... how do I get to prove to the court that he's working, just not getting a regular paycheck, but working under the table and getting money from his girlfriend? What other recourses do I have? Evidently, he hasn't filed a tax return in a few years, so the tax intercept is not working...

Right now I'm waiting on a date for him to appear in court in NYC in regard to his arrears and I want to prepare myself as best as possible. I don't have an attorney, nor can I afford one. Any and all suggestions are welcome.

I should also add that we already have a wage withholding order against him, but since he states that he is not working, then CSE can't enforce it. The state has also suspended his DL.... now we are just waiting on a contempt of court hearing... well, actually a date first and then the hearing. I printed out a copy of the website, with his picture next to the name and title, but how will this hold up in court? If at all? Should CSE go ahead and send the wage withholding order to the address listed on the webpage? which is actually his home address, they have a work from home business, all under her name. If she rebuttals this, then where do I go from there?

What is he, tax exempt?..receiving donations only? and if he is then donations or gifts must be reported as well. And in order to be tax exempt, then he needs to file or apply for tax exempt status.

If you can prove via credit records, that he is deliquent or paying on anything..then he must be receiving gifts, If he is Not tax exempt, job or not, then he must report these gifts.

If he is listed as a V.P. for a corporation then he must be listed a pro bono...if not, then he must be receiving compensation. Have you had a 1099 request made on him?

Sorry, that's about all I've got.

Looking at your post once more...I would take the copy of the webpage of his business to my case worker to prove he has an income..unless it is listed as "not for profit". And even in a not for profit corporation there are still officers that draw a "stipend" off of donations.

And does he drive? if so, then report erratic driving anonomously when he's on the road...giving license plate and all so they can bust him with a suspended license. Just a thought.

Thanks paulj for your input. His girlfriend pays for everything... I think his cell phone may be under his name, but that's about it.... and how do I prove that it's under his name, pure speculation right now. How do I do a 1099 check on him? and I do know his SS#, can I legally order a credit report on him?

Yeah, I wish I knew the license plate # so I can report erratic driving.... lol! That's the best suggestion thus far.

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Originally posted by BASICALLYAMY:
Since you think he's working under the table you could always anonymously report him to the IRS for suspition of tax evasion. You have his social security number so even if he isn't evading, it could seriously jam not only him up but the girlfriend as well for not turning in his earnings from her company. If I'm not mistaken, employers who don't comply with wage withholdings can face charges and serious fines.

Either way it can't hurt to try. Shake him out of his comfort zone a little. Trust me it's kinda fun watching them twist in the wind....lol.

Funny you should say that.... I was looking at the IRS website and they have a fraud tip hotline or something like that and the same exact thoughts came through my mind.... report her and give them the website where he can find his name and title associated with her company... but I dismissed it 'cause I felt so "dirty"... only word that comes to mind to describe my feelings about it.

Hmmmmm... I also just remembered, he does have a credit card under his name.... about 2 years ago he paid for something for my son and used his credit card... so that constitutes a bill.... but he can testify that his girlfriend doesn't give him cash, that she outright pays for it. I know him very well and he is a snake... as much as I am researching all my options, I am sure he is or will do the same once he gets the order to appear for the contempt. That is why I'm throwing out all possible scenarios so that I can attempt to be prepared and as much ahead as I can.

<Sigh>, why do deadbeats think they can wash their hands out of their responsibilities? These are their children... it took two people to make a child, it takes two to maintain them. Especially if they know that we are not financially secure. In my ex's case, he has told me over and over again that he wants to see me homeless and have my car towed for not being able to pay it.... what a dumbass.... that only gave me more reason to fight for what I have. Now I'm so darn proud of myself. It wasn't without my share of sweat, blood, and tears though.

Well, I called CS and informed them of his place of employment, including the listed number (not his cell phone #). Hopefully, he will be the one answering the phone with the business name.... let's see what happens. I don't wish them ill will, all I want is the money he owes my kids.

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Originally posted by Flgurlie1234:
Funny you should say that.... I was looking at the IRS website and they have a fraud tip hotline or something like that and the same exact thoughts came through my mind....

Not only would they investigate, but they also have a 15% whistleblower's fee from what they collect that you could claim, if my research is correct. That would go a long way towards making up the arrears he owes.