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I have a 4 years old daughter and she is living with her mother - my ex-wife near San Franscisco.

I've been paying her mother more than $600 a month as the child support. And we wanted to send our daughter to a pre-school. I remembered my parents went through their own financial difficulties to send their children to get proper educations and I wanted to do the same thing to my daughter.

My ex said that she does not have enough money to send our daughter to send to a school. So I decided to send her more $$.

Now I send more than $800 a month. So my daughter goes to school now :-).

I was so happy to see when my daughter was performing at school in the last christmas.

Anyway, I also take care of my daughter's health insurance and some accidental insurance, and I pay most big-chunk of co-payments whenever she visit the doctor. She was born with defective eyes and heart.

My daughter lives too far from me. So, I can see her only once a month. I have to fly to go to see my daughter and whenever I go to see her I have to spend extra money to buy clothes and toys for her.

I easily spend more than a $1000 every month to do all these.

However, the problem is, my ex-wife still want more from me. My ex-wife is not rich. She has a job but she said she doesn't make good money. I don't know how much she actually makes.

Now I am completely single, and there is no tax-exemption for the money I pay for child support. I pay tax as a single person. I can only save few hundreds dollars for my retirement plan every month.

If I pay my ex more than what I pay now. I will barely be able to support myself with no money left to save.

But since my ex says she need more from me to support my daughter, I am thinking to pay her more.

The problem is, I feel like, as more as I help my ex she gets more depended on me. I've been doing my best to support my children (at least financially). I frequently told my ex that I appreciate her for taking good care of our daughter and being a good mother. I think it is important to keep a good relationship with my ex to be a good father. So I've been very nice to my ex and tried to help her financially.

But whenever she need something she says it's because of my daughter. And I am not sure if it is my ex who needs it or it's my daughter. She is like "Your daughter need a better place to live but I don't have money to afford a new apartment" or "I can not get a good-paying job because I am a single mom".

Recently I leanred that my Ex told my daughter, "Poor girl, you are living in a poverty because your daddy is poor."

When I learned that I was very angry. Because I don't consider my-self a poor daddy. I have a decent job and make decent money. I got an excellent health benefits for my daughter through my company and I think I've been paying good money to my ex for my daughter. I've never considered my self as a poor person.

I was really upset by the fact that my ex described me in such a negative way to my daughter. And I realized that all my efforts that I've been doing to remain as a good ex-husband is failing.

To me it seems like, she blames on me for every mis-fortune she thinks she is having.

Few days ago, she said she is thinking about getting my daughter adopted to someone else because she can not affod raising her anymore. Guess what I felt. :-(

I want to take my daughter back if she is serious of doing it. The problem is, I am still a stranger to my daughter. She is too young to remember me just by seeing me once a month. And she never ever want to get a part with me. One day I visited my daughter and asked her if she want to stay with her daddy for one night. Then she started to cry because she is so afraid of getting apart from her mother even for a moment.

So if I take her back now, she will have to go through a terribly difficult time to get apart with her mother.

Now she asks more from me. I don't know what to do. I just can not say simply "NO" to her to refuse. Because my daughter may really need more from me. Also I don't think I can get her back at this time because she is emotionally too close to her mother to get apart.

Please someone tell me. What should I do? Am I not doing enough for my daughter? Should I pay her more? Or should I bring her back no matter what?

Thanks for reading.
 
Posts: 3 | Location: California | Registered: 29 January 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I have just found out that my ex-wife has been lying to me.

She has been telling me that she pay over $500 for my daughter's school and $600 for the part time day care because the school keeps the student only half a day.

I just called that school and found out that they take care of children from 7 am - 6 pm for only $470 a month.

What do I do now? Do I still need to keep the faith on my ex or what?

Should I send her less? Or should I pretend that I know nothing about her lie? :-(
 
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How about going to court and having your payments set up there according to what you would really have to pay? Or if you don't want to do that ask her for proof of what she pays.

My soon to be ex is suppose to give me 150 a week. I usually don't get the full amount and it really hurts. So if I was to get that amount it would really help me finacially instead of falling behind in bills. And if I could get over 1,000 a month that would just be too good to be true. But I'd never ask for that much.

It's good that you are looking out for your daughter. But I just can't believe she made the so called comment about giving her up for adoption. I wonder how her spending habits are. Does she do drugs or drink? Just wondering why she is lying to get more money. And she does work full time?

I wish that I could provide a better living enviroment for my daughters. I live in a small 2 bdrm trailer. I would love to have house. But my girls are taken care of. I know that I can't have the best of everything but we make do. Maybe your wife needs to learn this.

Also, is there any way that you could spend more time with your daughter? She really needs you whether she acts like it or not. The more your willing to put into this relationship with her the more she will get to know you and bond.
 
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She says she has a full time job but not making good money. I've never seen her doing drug or drink. I will not let the adoption happen. If so, I will take back the custody of my daughter.

Spending more time with my daughter is almost impossible. I live in LA and she lives in SF. The round trip flight cost me over $200. If I see her every week, I would have to spend $800 only for those air tickets! I am simply not able to afford this.

The court ordered me to pay $650 per month which I've been paying (They take it out of my pay check). On the top of it, I voluntarilly pay my ex-wife extra $200 every month personally to send my daughter to school. So I am actually legally bound to pay only $650 a month. I don't have to pay that extra $200 if I don't want to.

However if I tell my ex that I am going to stop paying that extra $200 for lying to me, it will ruin my relationship with my ex (Guess how this embarassed ex-wife will react to me). And it will eventually heart my realationship with my daughter.

I think I am just going to pretend like I don't know anything about her lie so I can keep good relationship with my ex which will eventually help me to keep good relationship with my daughter. If my ex is angry with me, she will tell all the negative things about me to my daughter. I don't want this to happen.

Am I wrong?

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Originally posted by Solo:
[qb]How about going to court and having your payments set up there according to what you would really have to pay? Or if you don't want to do that ask her for proof of what she pays.

My soon to be ex is suppose to give me 150 a week. I usually don't get the full amount and it really hurts. So if I was to get that amount it would really help me finacially instead of falling behind in bills. And if I could get over 1,000 a month that would just be too good to be true. But I'd never ask for that much.

It's good that you are looking out for your daughter. But I just can't believe she made the so called comment about giving her up for adoption. I wonder how her spending habits are. Does she do drugs or drink? Just wondering why she is lying to get more money. And she does work full time?

I wish that I could provide a better living enviroment for my daughters. I live in a small 2 bdrm trailer. I would love to have house. But my girls are taken care of. I know that I can't have the best of everything but we make do. Maybe your wife needs to learn this.

Also, is there any way that you could spend more time with your daughter? She really needs you whether she acts like it or not. The more your willing to put into this relationship with her the more she will get to know you and bond.[/qb]
 
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Hi, I am amazed by your post.Mostly the complaints are the other way around as of,Mothers trying to bring up kids on what little they have and Ex's not helping out.
Sir,I take my hat off to you.
I would go with Solo's advice and let a court decide.That way there is no argument.I would also have receipts to show a court off all you have paid,just in case there is a misunderstanding between you and your ex.

Best wishes,

Mark
 
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Hi again,I have been back through your posts and I see you have made a decision.
For the sake of your daughter that is fair enough.

Regards,

Mark
 
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I have been told that here in Indiana child support is 80 a child. I have two so I should get 160 a week. And I just may get that after I apply for legal assitance to get a lawyer.

I found an online calculator somewhere online to roughly figure what he should pay. I put 0 for child care, 0 for health insurance and it came out the same 160 a week.

So you have health insurance on her, pay your CS, and basically she is in preschool which is also her daycare provider right?

So you say it's 400 something and you send an extra 200 a month. So that's paying for about half. I would just call it fair. When she goes to school then the child care expense shouldn't be as much.

But you should not let her get away with lying to you. You don't have to be harsh about it. Just say that you called them to ask the price cause you wanted to make sure you were paying her a fair price cause you want to help out any way you can. And then tell her what they told you. See what she says.

It seems like you paying a pretty good price for one child and geesh I have two!! And don't get that right now and it hasn't been consistant in the last year. But whether I have one or two the bills are the same and the money I get helps towards that. So when extra expenses arise like clothes, shoes, new toys, and preschool it's tough for me. And I don't get extra. And sometimes I think extra would be nice. But Im not the type to take advantage of people and when I go to court I don't plan to get every little thing I can out of him although sometimes I think I deserve it. But Im not a hateful person. And I can tell you are not either. But you can't let people take advantage of you either. If she says your a poor daddy then what more is it going to take to make her happy?
 
Posts: 123 | Location: Northern Indiana | Registered: 20 September 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Before I start, know that my ex husband owes us almost $50,000 in child support. He hasn't paid in years--nor has he been active in their life. Given his character, I will gladly forfeit the child support if he will just leave us alone (so far, so good). You are to be admired for taking care of financial matters WITHOUT A COURT ORDER TO DO SO! I have supported my family (two children) 100% by myself (with God's help, of course) for the last 8 years.

If you are being completely honest in what you're writing, here would be my guess. I would guess your ex is a manipulative control freak and is using your daughter to try to either make you miserable or make up for her insecurities. Either way, it's your little girl I feel sorry for.

The wisest thing you could do is have child support go through the court system. Whether or not you choose to do this, I would keep a record of every penny you give her and every expense you have to put out in travel etc. I would NEVER give her cash. If you can't prove you've been faithful in trying to support her, your ex may try to paint you as a dead-beat dad one day.

You obviously want your daughter's needs to be met, so cut back on the actual dollar amount you give her and ask what it is your daughter needs. Maybe YOU could have the school bill YOU and pay that bill yourself. If she needs shoes, buy her shoes.

It's like the guys with the "will work for food" signs. If they are truly hungry, they are grateful for a warm meal. If it's alcohol they want, then they just want your money. They certainly need to eat, but it is not anyone else's responsibility morally or otherwise to provide their drinking habits.

It sounds to me like your ex is taking advantage of you. It's up to you whether you let her or not. I'm not saying she wants the money for drugs or alcohol, but it sure seems like it is for HER benefit, not your daughter's. It looks like she wants you to support HER (your ex) in the lifestyle she wants, not needs.

The crap she is feeding your daughter about being poor because of her daddy is dirty! It hurts you now, but eventually, your daughter will learn that daddy has been there for her all along, and it will only come back to slap her mother in the face. I've seen it happen a bunch of times. The good guy, the faithful one, wins in the end. It's just difficult in the meantime. Don't give up. This is where a lot of dads bail out all together. Don't do it--you'll regret it one day.

Also, unless the laws out there are really screwy and different from the laws in FL and GA, there is no way she can put that child up for adoption when her biological father is alive and able to support her. This is just another manipulative technique. Play her game. Next time she feeds you that, tell her that you will gladly take full custody of your daughter and then she can pay YOU child support.

I think it would be wise of you to get a lawyer and set the child support by your state's guidelines. It would be for YOUR protection.

Good luck!
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[qb]I have a 4 years old daughter and she is living with her mother - my ex-wife near San Franscisco.

I've been paying her mother more than $600 a month as the child support. And we wanted to send our daughter to a pre-school. I remembered my parents went through their own financial difficulties to send their children to get proper educations and I wanted to do the same thing to my daughter.

My ex said that she does not have enough money to send our daughter to send to a school. So I decided to send her more $$.

Now I send more than $800 a month. So my daughter goes to school now :-).

I was so happy to see when my daughter was performing at school in the last christmas.

Anyway, I also take care of my daughter's health insurance and some accidental insurance, and I pay most big-chunk of co-payments whenever she visit the doctor. She was born with defective eyes and heart.

My daughter lives too far from me. So, I can see her only once a month. I have to fly to go to see my daughter and whenever I go to see her I have to spend extra money to buy clothes and toys for her.

I easily spend more than a $1000 every month to do all these.

However, the problem is, my ex-wife still want more from me. My ex-wife is not rich. She has a job but she said she doesn't make good money. I don't know how much she actually makes.

Now I am completely single, and there is no tax-exemption for the money I pay for child support. I pay tax as a single person. I can only save few hundreds dollars for my retirement plan every month.

If I pay my ex more than what I pay now. I will barely be able to support myself with no money left to save.

But since my ex says she need more from me to support my daughter, I am thinking to pay her more.

The problem is, I feel like, as more as I help my ex she gets more depended on me. I've been doing my best to support my children (at least financially). I frequently told my ex that I appreciate her for taking good care of our daughter and being a good mother. I think it is important to keep a good relationship with my ex to be a good father. So I've been very nice to my ex and tried to help her financially.

But whenever she need something she says it's because of my daughter. And I am not sure if it is my ex who needs it or it's my daughter. She is like "Your daughter need a better place to live but I don't have money to afford a new apartment" or "I can not get a good-paying job because I am a single mom".

Recently I leanred that my Ex told my daughter, "Poor girl, you are living in a poverty because your daddy is poor."

When I learned that I was very angry. Because I don't consider my-self a poor daddy. I have a decent job and make decent money. I got an excellent health benefits for my daughter through my company and I think I've been paying good money to my ex for my daughter. I've never considered my self as a poor person.

I was really upset by the fact that my ex described me in such a negative way to my daughter. And I realized that all my efforts that I've been doing to remain as a good ex-husband is failing.

To me it seems like, she blames on me for every mis-fortune she thinks she is having.

Few days ago, she said she is thinking about getting my daughter adopted to someone else because she can not affod raising her anymore. Guess what I felt. :-(

I want to take my daughter back if she is serious of doing it. The problem is, I am still a stranger to my daughter. She is too young to remember me just by seeing me once a month. And she never ever want to get a part with me. One day I visited my daughter and asked her if she want to stay with her daddy for one night. Then she started to cry because she is so afraid of getting apart from her mother even for a moment.

So if I take her back now, she will have to go through a terribly difficult time to get apart with her mother.

Now she asks more from me. I don't know what to do. I just can not say simply "NO" to her to refuse. Because my daughter may really need more from me. Also I don't think I can get her back at this time because she is emotionally too close to her mother to get apart.

Please someone tell me. What should I do? Am I not doing enough for my daughter? Should I pay her more? Or should I bring her back no matter what?

Thanks for reading.[/qb]
 
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