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Originally posted by Singleparentcoach:
absolutely...

teachers here in canada think they are underpaid...I don't believe they are...

if you saw what they got paid here, teachers in teh states would be moving down here in a heartbeat...

I think starting pay 1st year teacher is $40,000 at least that is what couple of my friends started of at when they got out of university and my ex sister in law is now making way above that.

Yeah, that's about how much I made after 10 years experience and adding a Masters Degree.

But I love, love, love my job. I even love my school district, and have a hard time ever imagining leaving the profession or my district.

So Canada will have to do without me. lol

well uhm...the men are hot???

hehehehehehe

You think I would leave my low-pay, high satisfaction job for a high-pay, high satisfaction job in a country that has hot men?

*wondering why I'm still in Washington...*

lmao

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Originally posted by Lurch:
Well lets put it this way, no matter what a school sayz, or even society, WE the parent are responsible for our child's education, as we are for making them decent humans. For too long we have just assumed that sending to school has been the end of our duty, well its not. We put our most precious gift in the hands of people we simply don't know, who have their own agenda.

I NEVER expected this school to RAISE my child, But my taxes pay and the state law requires my son gets an education. Whether homeschooled, private, or public. I AM required BY LAW. So in essence it IS the responsibility (PAID BY TAXES) of the school to EDUCATE my son as well as MY responsibility to teach him how to be a good human being. So don't think what you stated is my mentality. In a nut shell thats why I am doing all this...i don't trust the school right now. and he is my most precious thing in my life.

Sorry for the rant lurch.

Well I had my meeting with the Principal and teacher. What was odd, was as soon as the meeting started teacher brought in kyle for horseplaying. He ended up sitting in the principals office ALONE for 1 hrs. While we were in the conference room. We didn't know the teacher put him in there till after the meeting. But he sat quietly and did nothing wrong while in there so the principal took care of that fast and asked me to "step out" for a minute while she talked to the teacher. LOL Don't know what was said but wasn't good. LOL

The teacher tried to say that my childs hitting was 100% of the time unprovoked. Even the principal looked her dead in the eye and said "I can't even believe that". Teacher changed and said well 80%. I asked about why he was getting X's all the time and I never got a phone call. The teacher raised her voice and said "Fine, I will stop what I am doing and call you everytime". I said "thats not my point....how am I supposed to know the severity of his actions when all I get is this" showed the principal the past 3 months and she even noticed that the trend of bad behaviour just started. That the first 2 months was mainly good.

I told the principal and teacher about him coming home and calling himself a loser and how he hated school and pretty much his self-esteem was plummetting. Principal freaked out when she heard that. Thats when I realized, the principal had no clue about my sons behaviour at all. and if it was this bad she should have known about it.

Needless to say the teacher has the principals eye on her and my son and told me privately she help keep an eye out.She also told me to make copies of all of his logs and keep them in my folder (as I have been doing). Seems to me other parents are having problems as well.

I'll post as things progress.

Thanks everyone for chiming in on my problem.

Compliments again, SCdawg, for how you're handling this. Focusing on facts, asking for specific data, remaining calm.

This teacher is not being reasonable or fair. Asking for a phone call when severe behaviors are occurring is completely reasonable on your part. The fact that she had an angry, snappy response for why she's not keeping you regularly informed, shows she is not looking for solutions, just stuck in the anger of the situation.

If she's not looking for solutions, we're not going to get anywhere.

You have the principal on your side. Any chance of having your child moved to another class?

Sorry you're dealing with this. Not all teachers are like this!

a kindergartener sitting for 1 hour is extremely well behaved child. (most of them have trouble sitting still for 15 minutes)

If you don't think the teacher and your child can settle their differences quickly, I would ask to have him moved to another classroom also.

If a lot of parents are having trouble, you may want to do this quickly before all of them ask. It's going to be harder for the principal to replace the teacher in a quick manner.

Setting good learning habits and attitude is soooo important IMO. I would hate for any parent to do damage control for bad teaching, especially in kindergarten.

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Originally posted by SCdawg:

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Originally posted by Lurch:
Well lets put it this way, no matter what a school sayz, or even society, WE the parent are responsible for our child's education, as we are for making them decent humans. For too long we have just assumed that sending to school has been the end of our duty, well its not. We put our most precious gift in the hands of people we simply don't know, who have their own agenda.

I NEVER expected this school to RAISE my child, But my taxes pay and the state law requires my son gets an education. Whether homeschooled, private, or public. I AM required BY LAW. So in essence it IS the responsibility (PAID BY TAXES) of the school to EDUCATE my son as well as MY responsibility to teach him how to be a good human being. So don't think what you stated is my mentality. In a nut shell thats why I am doing all this...i don't trust the school right now. and he is my most precious thing in my life.

Sorry for the rant lurch.

By the way, that wasen't a jab at you, simple a observation. I had a teacher once give the other kids in the class permission to get onto my eldest if she acted or answered incorrect, that was some fight there and totally blew the faith I had in school when they just blew me off and let her do it. Nevada had some of the worst schools around at the time, and I am not sure they are much better.

Something is strange to me? if it was a problem why did she notice you in advance. before now? I'm glad to hear that you a record of everything. I don't like that she is raised her voice at you or the principal. Sounds like she is not a profressional.

Capt, I have a question for you. For example, if kyle is displaying poor behavior, but you have the duty to notice the parents about his behavior? Why in the earth was he in the principal's office unsupervisored! I would love to be a bug on the wall.

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Originally posted by captmatrix:
You think I would leave my low-pay, high satisfaction job for a high-pay, high satisfaction job in a country that has hot men?

*wondering why I'm still in Washington...*

Traitor

Yeah, KM, I'm also confused as to why the boy was placed in the principal's office for one hour.

Perhaps if the child acted out after a hour of shear bordom the teacher would have been vindicated. Just a thought

I don't like the fact that no one knew he was in here. Did she why?

at my son's school, if my son were to have any kind of detention for bad behaviour or homework, we get a phone call the day before to have the time, date and place scheduled...just a policy this school choses to follow...

and it is never done in teh principals office

now...i have had the exact same problem with my now 10 year old..at 5 he was doing everything let the teachers tell it..i don't know how many times i had to leave my job to go and teach/babysit my own son at school..now i feel like this right here point blank...i have a job to do, i get paid to get up early 5 days a week and deal with people that i have no control over because i work in an adult world at a hospital..i cannot control these people because they are adults (mostly). when i have a kid come through i get on their level only partly...now if she has to get up 5 days a week and deal with people (little people) that could care less if the sky was falling or not all they know is that this big person is portraying my mommie and or daddy and i am going to test the waters or i am not just to see how far i can go. some put the S on their chest and some don't....as an adult that is getting paid to get up 5 days a week and have been taught for however long they go to school ,know/see/diagnose issues with 5 year olds they should DEAL WITH THE LITTLE PEOPLE ACCORDING..i don't even remember when i was 5 let alone whose day i may have ruined because i wet my pants at nap time, or what teacher had PMS that day and i was the last one she wanted to see cause i wiped snot on her the previous day, OMG he is only 5 YEARS OLD !!!!! he is a baby...u stay on their heels...he know he is missing a key figure in his life i am sure u had a hard time pushing on and you are an adult..imagine 5,7,13,21,40...these are ages of people that have lost parents i am sure and it is gut-wreching no matter what...she should try to hug him sometimes even when his misbehaves maybe he needs it from her, maybe he needs a word of encouragement from her like- hey kid you did so well today thank you i was having a bad day and you made it better...you don't have to be an educator for that...thats just human nature to nurture..GOOD LUCK..